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Ah, wanderingsamurai, thank you.
"but it's what we feel inside" blech.
No, it's not. It's what you wish to express to the world to induce them into thinking that you feel that way. If you can drop the immaturity and see past the veneer of all this self-pitying nonsense, then maybe you could write something decent for once, instead of all this piss imagery and fake sadness written up in seconds to garner attention from fake internet personas.
Good day to all of you.
Since when does all poetry have to be depressing? Really, give it a rest.
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 05:52 PM
"Yo creo que los reyes desaparecen"
First came the seen, then thus the palpable
Elysium, though it were in the halls of hell,
What thou lovest well is thy true heritage
What thou lov'st well shall not be reft from thee
The ant's a centaur in his dragon world.
Pull down thy vanity, it is not man
Made courage, or made order, or made grace,
Pull down thy vanity, I say pull down.
Learn of the green world what can be thy place
In scaled invention or true artistry,
Pull down thy vanity,
Paquin pull down!
-Ezra Pound
http://www.anus.com/
http://www.ihr.org/
accelerate
tempt fate
First came the seen, then thus the palpable
Elysium, though it were in the halls of hell,
What thou lovest well is thy true heritage
What thou lov'st well shall not be reft from thee
The ant's a centaur in his dragon world.
Pull down thy vanity, it is not man
Made courage, or made order, or made grace,
Pull down thy vanity, I say pull down.
Learn of the green world what can be thy place
In scaled invention or true artistry,
Pull down thy vanity,
Paquin pull down!
-Ezra Pound
http://www.anus.com/
http://www.ihr.org/
accelerate
tempt fate
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 07:16 PM
Eyebrows said:
No, it's not. It's what you wish to express to the world to induce them into thinking that you feel that way. If you can drop the immaturity and see past the veneer of all this self-pitying nonsense, then maybe you could write something decent for once, instead of all this piss imagery and fake sadness written up in seconds to garner attention from fake internet personas.
My poetry is really personal and I write it because it's therapy for the soul to write your very own thoughts and feelings on a piece of paper. There is nothing wrong with that, and if you think my feelings are fake, then just ignore them. There is no need in creating pointless threads bashing people for opening up their minds and being creative. (I am not accusing you for that, rather wanderingsamurai.) The worst thing in the world to me is self-pitying, and I would never show that through my creations. That is simply not the point in poetry, and neither do I think any of the other ones posting their poems here think it is.
So if you could drop the role of playing Square-Insider's supreme source of negativity and know-it-all-ism and see past your own plastic reality, then maybe you could start saying something nice for once, instead of just opposing every single opinion there is to oppose on these god damn forum boards to prove yourself superior to fake internet personas.
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 07:36 PM
Right on, Thursday.
That was very uncalled for, Eyebrows. Not to mention a piece of bull. Yeah, bullshit.
Got nothing else to say about that, seeing as Thursday pretty much said it all.
Well, maybe only this:
How in the world would you know how any of us feel?
Exactly. You don't.
That was very uncalled for, Eyebrows. Not to mention a piece of bull. Yeah, bullshit.
Got nothing else to say about that, seeing as Thursday pretty much said it all.
Well, maybe only this:
How in the world would you know how any of us feel?
Exactly. You don't.
This post has been edited by Eyes on me: 06 March 2005 - 07:39 PM
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 08:17 PM
nah not all poetry is depressing D:
like half of my poems are just about random stuff =s
this thread was interesting
like half of my poems are just about random stuff =s
this thread was interesting
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 09:15 PM
My poetry's not depressing! And if it DOES depress you then you're really messed up...:|or something...
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 10:36 PM
Eyebrows, on Mar 6 2005, 12:52 PM, said:
Ah, wanderingsamurai, thank you.
"but it's what we feel inside" blech.
No, it's not. It's what you wish to express to the world to induce them into thinking that you feel that way. If you can drop the immaturity and see past the veneer of all this self-pitying nonsense, then maybe you could write something decent for once, instead of all this piss imagery and fake sadness written up in seconds to garner attention from fake internet personas.
Good day to all of you.
"but it's what we feel inside" blech.
No, it's not. It's what you wish to express to the world to induce them into thinking that you feel that way. If you can drop the immaturity and see past the veneer of all this self-pitying nonsense, then maybe you could write something decent for once, instead of all this piss imagery and fake sadness written up in seconds to garner attention from fake internet personas.
Good day to all of you.
Very well said, and i'd expect nothing less of a friend of Ido's...
But sadly your wrong. I'd go and state the reasons but i'm afraid that Thursday already took care of that.
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Posted 07 March 2005 - 09:15 AM
Some people write about the truth of their past,some people write about things of their future and some people write about the life they have found themselves in now.Its not like anyone has the right to judge what people write and some times... to pity ourselves is the only thing we can or want to do.I am not saying that it is a cool thing to do.I am just saying that it has to be done if we feel nothing else.
I dont think that you (Eyebrows) have the right to slag off the poets here on SI. Some of them are magnificently talented. I just long to be like the sumtimes as they write about brilliant stuff and they write things that are very real to them. And not all poetry is written in seconds it has taken me hours to write peoms and it can be impossible to finish some poems.
I understand if you feel like I am trying to rebuke you cause in a way I am and you can listen to my advice or not.
Au reviour
I dont think that you (Eyebrows) have the right to slag off the poets here on SI. Some of them are magnificently talented. I just long to be like the sumtimes as they write about brilliant stuff and they write things that are very real to them. And not all poetry is written in seconds it has taken me hours to write peoms and it can be impossible to finish some poems.
I understand if you feel like I am trying to rebuke you cause in a way I am and you can listen to my advice or not.
Au reviour
Death is the absence of eternity yet the reassurance of hostility towards your self.
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Posted 07 March 2005 - 11:08 AM
Another well said comment.
Thank you for that, Desciple.
You're absolutely right. Poems can take very very long.
And also:
Thank you for that, Desciple.
You're absolutely right. Poems can take very very long.
And also:
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:16 PM
I have the complete and unwavering right to "slag off" all this tripe and all these petty excuses for poetry (you disgrace the art). And I will do it 1000 more times if necessary.
Mind you, I haven't bashed everything on here; some of it turns out to be halfway decent. But when it comes to poetry here, it just doesn't cut it. At all. There is more to the art than expressing your temporal (fabricated) feelings. It's about expressing something transcendent, lasting, and valid. Read into it more and maybe you'll understand.
And I make no apologies for being an elitist.
Mind you, I haven't bashed everything on here; some of it turns out to be halfway decent. But when it comes to poetry here, it just doesn't cut it. At all. There is more to the art than expressing your temporal (fabricated) feelings. It's about expressing something transcendent, lasting, and valid. Read into it more and maybe you'll understand.
And I make no apologies for being an elitist.
"Yo creo que los reyes desaparecen"
First came the seen, then thus the palpable
Elysium, though it were in the halls of hell,
What thou lovest well is thy true heritage
What thou lov'st well shall not be reft from thee
The ant's a centaur in his dragon world.
Pull down thy vanity, it is not man
Made courage, or made order, or made grace,
Pull down thy vanity, I say pull down.
Learn of the green world what can be thy place
In scaled invention or true artistry,
Pull down thy vanity,
Paquin pull down!
-Ezra Pound
http://www.anus.com/
http://www.ihr.org/
accelerate
tempt fate
First came the seen, then thus the palpable
Elysium, though it were in the halls of hell,
What thou lovest well is thy true heritage
What thou lov'st well shall not be reft from thee
The ant's a centaur in his dragon world.
Pull down thy vanity, it is not man
Made courage, or made order, or made grace,
Pull down thy vanity, I say pull down.
Learn of the green world what can be thy place
In scaled invention or true artistry,
Pull down thy vanity,
Paquin pull down!
-Ezra Pound
http://www.anus.com/
http://www.ihr.org/
accelerate
tempt fate
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:29 PM
Eyebrows said:
There is more to the art than expressing your temporal (fabricated) feelings. It's about expressing something transcendent, lasting, and valid. Read into it more and maybe you'll understand.
Of course there is more to art than just expressing temporal feelings, I'd even say there's more to art than just expressing emotions in general. (I agree that is mostly what it's about, but not always.) And I have no idea what poetry you are referring to here, but you can't judge all of SI's poetics just because the ones you have read have proven themselves to not suit you.
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:31 PM
I've always thought that poetry is like a window into the feeling/experience that inspired the poem. It just seems like everyone here is depressed 24/7. :dry:
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 05:59 PM
tetsuda said:
I've always thought that poetry is like a window into the feeling/experience that inspired the poem. It just seems like everyone here is depressed 24/7. :dry:
It's an online community. What did you expect? :dry:
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 06:35 PM
I know, I think most people here are depressed. And that's why they're online so much. They have no lives and so they're depressed and so they come here. YAY
People can write about whatever the hell you want to and you don't have to read it so LEAVE THEM ALONE BIZNATCH!
People can write about whatever the hell you want to and you don't have to read it so LEAVE THEM ALONE BIZNATCH!
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 06:41 PM
tetsuda, on Mar 8 2005, 06:31 PM, said:
I've always thought that poetry is like a window into the feeling/experience that inspired the poem. It just seems like everyone here is depressed 24/7. :dry:
Exactly, it is. A moment in time. Which you were able to capture. You tried to express yourself.
And why does that matter, Tetsuda?
So all the poets are depressed. And they write poems about it. You guys can just choose not to read it. Easy as that.
Not meant to offend, just saying what I think.
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 07:10 PM
When you bring more (much unneeded) mediocrity to a genre, such opinions are necessary.
"When the world is too much with us," indeed Mr. Wordsworth.
"When the world is too much with us," indeed Mr. Wordsworth.
This post has been edited by Eyebrows: 09 March 2005 - 08:07 PM
"Yo creo que los reyes desaparecen"
First came the seen, then thus the palpable
Elysium, though it were in the halls of hell,
What thou lovest well is thy true heritage
What thou lov'st well shall not be reft from thee
The ant's a centaur in his dragon world.
Pull down thy vanity, it is not man
Made courage, or made order, or made grace,
Pull down thy vanity, I say pull down.
Learn of the green world what can be thy place
In scaled invention or true artistry,
Pull down thy vanity,
Paquin pull down!
-Ezra Pound
http://www.anus.com/
http://www.ihr.org/
accelerate
tempt fate
First came the seen, then thus the palpable
Elysium, though it were in the halls of hell,
What thou lovest well is thy true heritage
What thou lov'st well shall not be reft from thee
The ant's a centaur in his dragon world.
Pull down thy vanity, it is not man
Made courage, or made order, or made grace,
Pull down thy vanity, I say pull down.
Learn of the green world what can be thy place
In scaled invention or true artistry,
Pull down thy vanity,
Paquin pull down!
-Ezra Pound
http://www.anus.com/
http://www.ihr.org/
accelerate
tempt fate
